The Truth about the Cross

The importance of the cross is a post-Nicene position and the symbol has become an object of worship in its own right as the Catholic Encyclopedia notes from pages 529 ff. The legislation elevating the symbol is an artefact of the Athanasians after the Council of Constantinople (c. 381).
A law of Theodosius and of Valentinian III (Cod. Justin., I, tit. vii) forbade under the gravest penalties any painting, carving, or engraving of the cross on pavements, so that this august sign of our salvation might not be trodden under foot. This law was revised by the Trullan Council (A.D. 691) canon lxxii (p. 530).
According to Cyril of Alexandria (Contra Julian, vi), Julian prohibited the adoration of the cross and engraving of the cross over doorways and tracing on foreheads (Cath. Encyc., op. cit.).
The iconoclastic emperors, Leo the Isaurian, Constantine Capronymous, Leo IV, Nicephorus, Michael II and Theophilus seemed to have made exception in the case of the cross, engraving it on their coins (cf. Banduri Numism. Imperat. Rom., II; Cath. Encyc., op. cit.). The use of the cross as a logo by iconoclasts, in deference to the second commandment and in place of a graven image, is a far cry from legitimising its use in worship. The use merely demonstrates how far the symbol had penetrated by their time.
The second Council of Nicea (787), held for the purpose of reforming abuses and ending the disputes of iconoclasm,
defined that the veneration of the faithful was due ‘of the precious and vivifying cross’ as well as to images or representations of Christ, of the Blessed Virgin, and of the saints (Cath. Encyc., op. cit.).
The Council held that the cult of the Latria belongs to the divine nature alone. Thus, the objects were accorded a form of worship which is not that held to be accorded to the divine nature. But asserting that the worship of the images of mortals is acceptable is contrary to the explicit teaching of the Bible.
The concept that the images could be imbued with the divine nature is intellectually absurd. Prayer, even to the spirit of a dead saint, which is a term extended to all of the elect, is not only non-biblical but such a concept demonstrates a complete misapprehension of the biblical teaching concerning the resurrections. The adherent, in effect, would be asked to pray to the idea/ideatum which has returned to God, perhaps under custody of Christ, awaiting the resurrection. The entity itself knows nothing. The concept is absurd within Christianity and can only derive from the animist cosmology of the Mystery cults. Such misunderstanding compounded the errors of Nicea I and Constantinople I. It completely misapprehended the biblical teaching on the divine nature which is possessed by all of the elect.
Thus the symbolism had turned full circle and the images of the Mysteries had taken over Christianity and become the foci of worship.
From above, the use of the cross is philosophically objectionable within Christianity – not just on those grounds, but also because the concepts above, which are logically predicated upon God and are the direct prerogative of God, are in this symbolism attributed to Christ as they were to the gods of the Mysteries. The resurrection occurs as an act of God’s authority. God alone is immortal (1Tim. 6:16). Christ exercised obedient authority, laying his life down and taking it up on that authority (Jn. 10:18). Christ, he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified are all of one (KJV) origin (enos pantes) (Heb. 2:11 RSV). The use of the term enos pantes means that they are of one, wholly, in all respects, in every way (Thayers). The NIV seeks to mitigate this text by translating it as of the same family.
God alone is to be worshipped and the object of prayer (Lk. 4:8; Jn. 4:23; Rev. 19:10; 22:9). The cross has become a symbol of itself in the same way that the image set up by Moses (Num. 21:8-9) became an image of itself and would be thus idolatrous.
From above, the symbolism which surrounds the cross and the art works and forms is of itself loaded with concepts which have been transported into Christian worship. The concepts are derived from the most ancient forms of worship which have been transported or diffused throughout the nations and tribes. The identification of the origins and the interconnected relationships are made in the sections above. The cross as imagery is not a harmless tool or decoration.
The attribution of the cross and of Christ as an image and object of prayer is a breach of the second commandment.
The concept or doctrine imputes the ultimate sin to Christ of making himself equal with God, which the Bible holds he was not (Jn. 14:28, Phil. 2:6). Such concepts were not used in the first two centuries of the Church and indeed were viewed as idolatry. Many of our people were martyred for refusing to accept crosses as symbols of their faith.
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It is the strangest thing to me, the controling "religion" in the world that prides themselves on their "greatness" of Civilization, are the bloodiest. These "Christians" , began by Greeks and Romans who stole the religion AND HISTORY, of the Jewish People to use as a power force, have demanded more blood, and human sacrifice than any pagan "religion in all history.

Committing genocides, in the name of God, by claiming to "Civilize" those they conquered. With the Blessings of Popes, and Religious leaders, they began a bloody war against the world, and with the threat of "hell" and "excomunication" on their side, rode out to victory. Catholic's began it, yes, but as the "branches", split away to Protestantism, it was no better, Calvanist, Lutherans, Methodist, Baptist...ect, it makes no difference they are all the same.

They all "Preach" a good story, but not one LIVES the word they preach, they are racist, prideful, filled with hate, worship false idols(those who render a "pledge to a flag" are offering worship to an idol) they are putting something before their God. They worry more for how they look, and what OTHERS think about them,than what their God thinks about them. They do not take the time to read for themselves the history of their OWN chosen religion.

They do not realize their Jesus was not ONLY a Jew, he was a DEVOUT Jew, who lived strictly by the word of the laws of the Torah. He was a dark skinned man, from Israel, blood kin to those fom Iraq, and Iran, all of those Peoples are children of Abraham. And yet, the Chistian, HATES the Jew, the Catholic, especially, looks down upon them, calls them "killers of Jesus", such faithless pagans they are, those Catholics. Do they not understand they are negating the very GIFT they claim their Jesus gave? If Jesus died for their sins, did he not die WILLINGLY? IF, Jesus was the son of God, not even the JEWS could have killed him, if he did not WISH to die, so the Catholics need to think through their own story better.

Still today the fear holds sway, of this false religion, this "man made" power stick. For those who follow the Bible and have read it carefully, they know very well it warned long before these "religions" started to beware of them. That they would wash the whole earth in blood, it is a GOOD history book the Jewish Bible, sad the Catholics, the Romans, by order of the Popes, destroyed the "bibles", of the other indiginous Peoples when ever they could find them. Yes, every People has a history, has THEIR OWN "religion" or Path to God, Ceator, and they have a RIGHT to practice and follow that path. It is just as RIGHT, just as sanctified, just as HOLY, and in some cases far MORE so as they do NOT demand the blood of innocents as Christianity has done.

Christians have, and continue to demand blood sacrifice, create wars, cause famine, steal lands, children, and cause plagues to kill more innocent people in the name of greed. They came to the Americas and committed the greatest genocide the world has ever known, and still today will not make right all the wrongs they have committed. Yet demand the world around them live a certian way, and think themselves ABOVE the rest. It is time that they understand, if that is how THEY choose to worship, that is THIER choice, but they have NO RIGHT to force it on the rest of the world!!

If I, am expected to honor their right to be Christian, then they, should respect MY right to worship in what EVER way that I choose. Being Christian, should NOT give them privlige, to anything, in any way, they should NOT have right to come into the homes of Native Americans and say how we raise our children, how we live our lives, how we WORSHIP our Creator.

granny

Through the Fire!


Who cries, whispers the West Wind to the East Wind
such a sad and lonely sound, so quietly in the night.

Do not weep, begged brother Moon to the child upon the ground
look up please, does not my silver glow bring hope to your heart?

Rock is cracking, said Water to Grandmother sun
from the weight of despair, that burdens this little one.

A song cries Jay, come Oriel sing and lift this child's burden
dance tsisdu, awi bring your spotted little one from hiding.

South Wind sighs a warm gust, hoping to distract him
such sorrow is not natural, to the young and innocent.

I will keep silent, North Wind offered
my wet cold breath, will only add to his troubles.

Look, his tears have called to the Cloud People
in sympathy, they are going to join in with a soaking.

How closely he huddles to Mother Earth, seeking protection
can the wide expanse of Father Sky, not distract him?

Hush, said Creator; leave him be in his mourning
can you not see, this small one alone is understanding?

So many gifts there are in this life, so much of beauty
and yet among his kind, there is a willing blindness.

This one gentle heart, I have allowed to see the future
his tears are precious, for they are offered in love of his brothers.

So young, sighed the Winds above
too small, cried the four legs and feathered.

Let us help carry his troubles, offered rock and waters
please allow me to comfort, begged Mother Earth, whose heart was breaking.

NO; Creator told them, this is his choice, I will not take it from him
to my two legged children I promised, it is their chance for atoning.

Alone he walks the path of his choosing, and alone are his decisions
only in this way, will his spirit reach true understanding.

Young they are, and impetuous, full of great passion
but they can not learn, until alone they walk through the fire.

Pain, hurt, and loneliness, build the strength that they are needing
one cannot enjoy the good, until they have tasted true sorrow!

granny